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Make a group with a name, a base currency and two to twenty members, and what each error message means.

A group has a name, a base currency and 2 to 20 members. Creating one takes one form and no account.

Open the form

On the home page press "Start a group". It goes to /new. If you only want to look around first, press "Try a sample trip" instead. That makes a brand-new group filled with the Lisbon trip, and every press makes a new, separate group.

The fields

FieldRules
"Group name"Required, 1 to 60 characters.
"Base currency"A list of ISO 4217 currencies, EUR by default. Every balance is shown in this currency.
"Members"Starts with 2 name fields. "Add member" adds another field, up to 20 in all. Each extra field has a "Remove" button. Each name is 1 to 40 characters.

Two members cannot have the same name, and letter case is ignored. "Ana" and "ana" count as the same name. Names are compared after Unicode normalisation, so a name typed with a combining accent matches the same name typed as one character.

Press "Create group" when you are done.

Messages you may see

Each message appears under the field it belongs to.

What went wrongMessage
The group name is empty"Give the group a name."
Fewer than two members have a name"Add at least two members."
Two members have the same name"Each member needs a different name."
A member name is over 40 characters"Names can be at most 40 characters."
The group name is over 60 characters"Group names can be at most 60 characters."
A member name has a hidden formatting character"Remove hidden formatting characters from this name."
The group name has a hidden formatting character"Remove hidden formatting characters from the group name."

A hidden formatting character is something like a text-direction mark or an invisible space. It can make two different names look identical, so Penny refuses it. The joining characters inside emoji such as a family emoji, and inside Persian, Hindi and Sinhala spellings, are allowed.

Any unexpected failure shows "Something went wrong. Try again." Too many requests from one network in a minute show "Too many requests from your network. Wait a minute and try again."

After you create the group

The browser opens the group page. A banner reads "Group created. Share this link with your group:", followed by the full link and a "Copy link" button. Send that link to the people in the group. It is the only way in, so keep a copy yourself. See Share and reset.

From here:

  • Add an expense to record the first cost.
  • Add a member later with the "New member" field and the "Add member" button in the "Members" section. A group can have at most 20 members.
  • The base currency can be changed only until the first expense or payment is recorded. See Fix a mistake.

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